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Apple's September 9 Event: iPhone 17 and Game-Changing Reveals!
The tech world is buzzing with anticipation as Apple gears up for their "Awedropping" event on September 9th, 2025. With iPhone still accounting for over half of Apple's revenue and fierce competition mounting in AI, cameras, and design, this isn't just another product launch – it's a critical moment for the tech giant's future direction.
At the center of all rumors is the stunning new iPhone 17 Air, potentially measuring just 5.5mm thick and replacing the Plus model entirely. This bold design statement raises fascinating questions about necessary trade-offs – will battery life suffer? Can camera quality be maintained in such a slim profile? The standard iPhone 17 models aren't being neglected either, finally receiving the 120Hz ProMotion displays Pro users have enjoyed for years, while running on advanced A18 chips.
For photography enthusiasts and power users, the iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max promise substantial upgrades with the A19 Pro chip enabling professional-grade tasks directly on mobile. The redesigned camera system reportedly includes a 48-megapixel telephoto lens with impressive 8x optical zoom, while vapor chamber cooling in the Pro Max should prevent overheating during intensive tasks. JP Morgan analysts expect a $100 price increase for the Pro model, breaking the long-standing $999 starting point, likely justified by increased base storage to 256GB.
Apple Watch fans have plenty to anticipate with a complete lineup refresh. The Ultra 3 stands out with potential satellite connectivity for emergency situations when completely off-grid – a literal lifesaver for outdoor adventurers. Meanwhile, the Series 11 focuses on AI-powered features like personalized workout coaching, and the SE 3 aims to make the Apple ecosystem more accessible at a rumored sub-$200 price point. Even AirPods are evolving beyond audio with the Pro 3 potentially incorporating in-ear heart rate monitoring.
The September event won't include new Macs or iPads (expect those later), but the importance of Apple Intelligence can't be overstated. With nearly 70% of iPhone owners reportedly planning to upgrade this cycle, Apple needs to demonstrate they're not falling behind in the AI race. Mark your calendars for September 9th at 10AM Pacific, with pre-orders starting September 12th and devices hitting stores September 19th. Will you be among the first to experience Apple's next generation of devices?
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Welcome to the deep dive where we try to cut through all the digital noise. You can get instantly well-informed and Wow, is there a lot of noise this week. Apple is absolutely buzzing. They're gearing up for this. What are they calling it? They're all dropping event Tuesday, september 9th. Right, and you are listener. You've sent us a mountain of sources, articles, leaks, analyst reports, you name it. So our job today, we're going to boil all that down.
Allan:Get to the good stuff.
Ida:Exactly. Find the most important nuggets, give you the shortcut to understanding what Apple's actually launching, what's maybe coming later and what it all means for you.
Allan:Yeah, and this isn't just another date on the calendar for Apple. It feels pretty critical. High states, definitely. I mean the iPhone still makes up more than half their revenue.
Ida:Yeah.
Allan:That's huge and the competition, especially on AI on cameras, it's fierce Right. And that awe-dropping name yeah, it's not just marketing stuff. I don't think it really points towards some bold design moves, maybe some interesting new colors across the board.
Ida:Okay, let's dive right into the main event then the iPhone 17 series. It feels like, from everything we're seeing, there's one particular model that's just getting all the buzz.
Allan:Oh, absolutely, you mean the iPhone 17 Air.
Ida:That's the one.
Allan:Yeah, it's definitely the talk of the town, and for good reason. The rumor is it's going to be incredibly thin, like 5.5 millimeters 1.5, wow. If that's true, it'd easily be the thinnest iPhone ever. Some sources are even saying it might completely replace the iPhone 17 Plus in the lineup.
Ida:Okay, replace the Plus. That's a big shift.
Allan:It is. It shows Apple's really pushing the design envelope here.
Ida:But here's where my skepticism kicks in. A super thin phone sounds amazing, looks great, sure, but are there trade-offs? There usually are right. When you push the physics that hard, something's got to give. Is it battery? Is it the camera? Are they maybe betting too much on just looking sleek?
Allan:That's the million-dollar question, isn't it? And analysts like Brandon Nispel at KeyBank? They're asking the same thing the sources do point to compromises like maybe only a single lens camera and all certainly shorter battery life. You just can't fit as much battery in that slim chassis.
Ida:Right.
Allan:And Niswold's point is that thinness alone might not be enough, especially after the iPhone 16 plus had kind of a lukewarm reception. But on the aesthetics front, that event logo, it really hints. We might see this error model in a new light blue Could be part of that awe-dropping design push.
Ida:Okay, what about the Pro models For the people who want? You know, all the bells and whistles, the top-tier stuff?
Allan:The iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max are looking like they'll get some pretty significant boosts. They're expected to have the new A19 Pro chip.
Ida:Faster, obviously.
Allan:Yeah, but not just faster loading apps. Think more like enabling pro-level tasks. Yeah, editing high-res video, running complex software right on the phone, really blurring that line between mobile and pre-workstations.
Ida:Okay.
Allan:But the big story for many, I think, will be the camera. Rumors point to a new, much larger pill-shaped camera bump.
Ida:Bigger bump. People love those or hate them.
Allan:Huh, yeah, but inside a 48-megapixel telephoto lens offering up to 8x optical zoom. Eight times optical, optical, that's the rumor. And there's also talk that dual recording you know, shooting video with front and back cameras at the same time might finally be a native feature.
Ida:Okay, 8x optical zoom. That sounds impressive on paper, but how do they make that actually usable for, you know, someone like me, not just a spec? Is it going to be genuinely useful photography or just lead to more shaky pictures of squirrels from really far away? And with all that power? What about, like dropping it and does it get hot?
Allan:Good points. Making powerful tech easy is always Apple's trick. Right For durability. The rumor is the Pro models might switch to mainly aluminum on the back instead of all glass. That could help.
Ida:Okay, Less shatter prone maybe.
Allan:Maybe and to handle the heat from that A19 Pro and the camera. The iPhone 17 Pro Max is tipped to get vapor chamber cooling. Ah, like in gaming laptops, Exactly To quote the source help it remain cooler for a lot longer. So better sustained performance for gaming or shooting long videos Makes sense. And yeah, tying back to the all-dropping colors, we might see the Pros in a new shade of orange, or maybe copper.
Ida:Interesting. So okay, pro gets the fancy chip big zoom, better cooling, maybe new colors. What about the regular iPhone 17? Is it just getting last year's?
Allan:leftovers? Not at all, actually. This could be a big year for the standard models too. They're finally rumored to get 120 hertz display.
Ida:Finally, promotion on the standard iPhone.
Allan:Looks like it. That means much smoother scrolling animations, just a generally nicer feel to use. It's been long overdue.
Ida:Yeah, definitely.
Allan:And they'll run on advanced A18 chips. So still a solid performance upgrade, no slouch.
Ida:Okay, let's talk money, because you know for a lot of people listening, that's the bottom line. Are these shiny new features going to cost us more?
Allan:Well, estimates from JP Morgan suggest the iPhone 17 Pro, specifically, will see a $100 price bump, landing at $1,099.
Ida:Oof why.
Allan:The thinking is it's likely tied to bumping the base storage to 256 GB. But yeah, it breaks that eight-year run of the Pro starting at $999. No-transcript, but the standard iPhone 17 and the Pro Max. They're expected to stay at $799 and $1199 respectively.
Ida:Okay, and the Air, that new thin one.
Allan:That one might slot in between maybe $899 or $949. Still premium.
Ida:So, yeah, definitely something for you to think about that price versus features equation. What about accessories? Anything interesting happening with cases or SIM cards?
Allan:Yes, Good news on the case front. Maybe Remember those fine woven cases.
Ida:Yeah, don't remind me, mine looked terrible after like a month.
Allan:Right, they were pretty ill-fated. Well, they're supposedly being replaced by new tech woven fabric cases designed to be more durable, more sustainable.
Ida:Better Hope so.
Allan:And they might have cutouts for straps or lanyards. Practical touch Also a bigger shift, the iPhone 17, might go e-STEM only in more countries, not just the US.
Ida:Ah, okay, that changes how you set up your phone service.
Allan:Yep Something to be aware of if you travel or switch carriers often.
Ida:All right, let's shift gears From our pockets to our wrists. Apple Watch we're shaking out there Sounds like a full refresh across the line.
Allan:It does. We're expecting three new models the Apple Watch Series 11, the Apple Watch Ultra 3, and a new Apple Watch SE 3. And all three are expected to run on a new S11 chip and use the new WatchOS 26 software. So a baseline performance and feature bump for everyone.
Ida:What really jumps out at me, though, is how targeted each one seems. Let's talk about the Apple Watch Ultra 3. That sounds like it's for serious adventurers.
Allan:Oh, absolutely. The Ultra 3 is clearly aimed at the outdoor extreme sports crowd. The headline feature rumored satellite connectivity Satellite like the iPhone. Yeah for emergency SOS when you're completely off grid, no Wi-Fi and no cell signal could be a literal lifesaver for hikers, climbers, that sort of thing.
Ida:Wow, that's actually a huge peace of mind.
Allan:Definitely it's also expected to get 5G REDCap support. That's a more efficient type of 5G. Yeah so better data without killing the battery, a slightly larger 2.12 inch display and advanced health stuff like blood pressure monitoring.
Ida:Blood pressure on the watch okay.
Allan:Plus the usual oxygen levels and all that. It's a beast.
Ida:So satellite on your wrist? Game changer for some people. What about the regular Series? 11 for you know, the rest of us just trying to close our rings.
Allan:The Apple Watch Series 11 seems focused on making everyday use smarter. You'll have the S11 chip, blood oxygen sensing, but the big addition seems to be AI integration.
Ida:Ah, Apple intelligence coming to the watch.
Allan:Looks like it. Things like a workout buddy feature for personalized coaching during exercise, smarter widgets just making the watch more proactively helpful throughout your day.
Ida:Okay, and for people who want the Apple Watch experience but maybe not the Series 11 price tag, the SE Right.
Allan:The Apple Watch SE 3 should bring that smooth S11 performance and the core watchOS 26 features down to a more affordable level. Rumors put it around $250, maybe even under $200.
Ida:No, wow, that's really accessible.
Allan:Yeah, it makes the core Apple Watch features available to a much wider audience. Gets more people into that ecosystem. Smart move.
Ida:Okay, next up, audio AirPods. Feels like we're due for an update there, especially the Pros.
Allan:We are, and the AirPods Pro 3 are expected. Upgrades look like improved active noise cancellation, better sound, maybe a slightly tweaked design. Standards, Pretty standard yeah, but the surprising bit new health tracking features specifically in-ear heart rate monitoring.
Ida:Heart rate in your earbuds.
Allan:Using IR sensors, apparently, so you could track your heart rate during a workout just using your AirPods. No watch needed.
Ida:That's unexpected and kind of cool, blurs the lines even more.
Allan:Exactly Pushes AirPods deeper into that health and wellness space.
Ida:Okay, so that brings us to the big picture software and specifically AI. Everyone's talking about AI. Apple seemed a bit behind what's happening with iOS 26 and Apple intelligence.
Allan:Yeah, this is huge. Both iOS 26 for iPhones and watchOS 26 are expected to get a visual refresh, something called a liquid glass design.
Ida:Sounds sleek, Okay, new look. But the core is the AI right.
Allan:Absolutely, the core is Apple intelligence and the core is the AI right. Absolutely, the core is Apple intelligence and the pressure is really on Apple here. They need to show they can compete with Google's Gemini features, samsung's Galaxy AI.
Ida:They do feel like they're playing a bit of catch up.
Allan:They do, and sources are pretty blunt about it. One quote was Apple intelligence could ultimately make or break the iPhone 17.
Ida:Wow, make or break, that's strong.
Allan:It is. It shows how critical AI is becoming to the whole smartphone experience. It's not just a feature anymore. It's becoming fundamental.
Ida:So what features can we actually expect If the betas were minimal? What will users like you and me actually see initially?
Allan:Good question. It sounds like visual intelligence is where the most noticeable upgrades will be at launch.
Ida:Meaning.
Allan:Enhanced photo editing, removing objects, maybe generating parts of images, searching your photos in much smarter ways using natural language Stuff like Google's Magic Editor or Ask Photos.
Ida:Okay, so smarter photo stuff and on the watch.
Allan:On watchOS 26. We mentioned the workout buddy, that's AI-powered fitness guidance. So AI will be there, but maybe more focused initially, not quite the all-encompassing assistant. Some rivals are pushing yet.
Ida:Right, they need a strong showing, though.
Allan:Definitely they can't afford to fall further behind in the AI race.
Ida:OK, it's really easy to get hyped up about all the new toys that are coming, but it's just as important for you, the listener, to know what won't be at this September event. Apple likes to spread things out, right.
Allan:Exactly, they have a pattern. September is almost always iPhone and watch. Macs and iPads usually get their own event, maybe in October, sometimes even later or earlier, like in May. So don't expect those next week. Nope, definitely not expected at the September 9th event in May. So don't expect those next week. Nope, definitely not expected at the September 9th event. So if you are holding your breath for a new Mac or iPad announcement, you can exhale.
Ida:So just to be crystal clear no M4 Mac Pros, no M5 MacBooks, no new iPads like the 12th gen base model, the 8th gen mini or those rumored M5 iPad Pros.
Allan:Correct On all counts. Those are further down the road, late 2025, 2026, maybe even 2027 for some of those Macs. We expect a flurry of new products, including iPads, but likely starting early 2026.
Ida:What about other big ticket items? Vision Pro HomePod.
Allan:A refreshed Apple Vision Pro, maybe with an M5 chip, seems likely before the end of this year, 2025, but definitely not next week. The next AirPods Max headphones? Probably not. Yeah, and even that rumored HomePod smart display, the thing to compete with Google Nest Hub? That's reportedly delayed until 2026. And the reason given was specifically to better prepare Apple intelligence for it.
Ida:Interesting AI is holding things up.
Allan:It seems like it. Oh, and the cheaper iPhone 17. That usually comes in the spring, so think early 2026 for that one.
Ida:Got it Any wild cards? Anything that might just sneak in Apple does like a surprise sometimes.
Allan:They do. It's possible we could see an AirTag 2 or maybe a fourth gen Apple TV 4K, perhaps with an A17 Pro chip for better gaming.
Ida:Okay.
Allan:Or even a HomePod Mini 2 with an S9 chip. These are smaller updates that could potentially slot in, but, yeah, definitely less certain than the iPhones and watches. Don't bet the farm on them.
Ida:Right, okay, so lots of exciting tech potentially coming, but let's zoom out a bit. What's the actual impact here beyond just the new gadgets? How do these events usually affect Apple in the market?
Allan:Well, historically you often see Apple stock price get a little bump right after the event Excitement buzz but then quite often there's some profit taking. The price settles down a bit as the market kind of digests everything. The real long-term impact depends on how well the products actually sell.
Ida:And the stakes are high, as you said, with the iPhone being so dominant.
Allan:Exactly. But what's really interesting, there was a recent survey. It indicated that nearly 7 in 10 iPhone owners in the United States plan to upgrade to an iPhone 17 model Seven out of 10.
Ida:That's huge. Are we just creatures of habit, or is there something genuinely compelling them this year?
Allan:It's a massive indicator. Right Suggests a potentially very strong upgrade cycle ahead, which would be great news for Apple's bottom line. It shows that even if upgrades seem incremental sometimes, that loyalty is incredibly powerful. But they do face that intense competition, especially on AI and cameras from Google, from Samsung. They have to keep innovating aggressively and internally. There's another interesting tidbit Apple is reportedly pushing for more automation in manufacturing.
Ida:More robots.
Allan:Yeah, robots over people was the phrase used. The goal is lower labor costs, better consistency, uniformity in the products. It's a big industry trend too.
Ida:Okay, so for you, the listener, maybe planning an upgrade or just wanting the new software. What are the key dates? Let's lock those in.
Allan:Right. The event itself Awedropping is Tuesday, september 9th 2025. Starts at 10.00 am Pacific time. Okay iPhone 17 pre-orders are expected to pick off that Friday September 12th, likely at 5.00 am Pacific. Get your coffee ready for that one Early start, mm-hmm. Then the iOS 26 software release for everyone's existing compatible devices. That's usually the following Monday September 15th, probably around 5.00 am Pacific again.
Ida:Okay, so software update first.
Allan:Usually yeah. And finally the new iPhone 17 models actually go on sale in stores and arrive from pre-orders on Friday, september 19th, typically starting at 7.00 am local time around the world.
Ida:Got it. Mark your calendars. So, wrapping this up, whether you're intrigued by that super thin iPhone 17 Air and its potential compromises, right. Or maybe you're dreaming of having satellite SOS on your Apple Watch Ultra for those off-grid adventures, or you're just really curious to see how Apple intelligence finally starts showing up and maybe makes your photos smarter or your workouts better. This odd dropping event looks set to bring some pretty significant changes.
Allan:It really does. Apple's strategy seems clear Shore up the iPhone and watch Core, make them compelling upgrades, while laying the groundwork with AI and hinting at those future products. It's less about just incremental bumps now and more about strengthening the whole ecosystem and staying ahead, or at least competitive, in this really tough market, strengthening the whole ecosystem and staying ahead, or at least competitive, in this really tough market.
Ida:So what stands out most to you from all this? Are you listener part of that nearly 70% already planning an iPhone 17 upgrade? Or are you maybe holding out, waiting for one of those Macs or iPads, or maybe even the next Vision Pro down the line? Lots to think about between now and September 9th. This deep dive definitely gives us plenty to chew on.
